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		<title>Comment on The Value of Psychiatry(?) by admin</title>
		<link>http://patienttimes.fdlpsychiatry.com/2011/12/529/comment-page-1/#comment-1532</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Chris!  I really enjoy my practice-- more and more as time goes on, as I get to know my patients better and better.  I do worry, of course, about the future of healthcare-- and in particular about government involvement.  Yes, healthcare is &#039;sick&#039;, but I&#039;m afraid of the &#039;one solution fits all&#039; approach of Washington.  I hope that I&#039;m able to &#039;opt out&#039; of whatever mess is created-- at least until the kinks are worked out!  

The salary issue is difficult to discuss without getting people angry... but I realized the other day that if you look at the reimbursement of physicians by the state or Federal government-- Medicaid or Medicare-- that physicians are paid less than teachers on an hourly basis.  In fact, it isn&#039;t even close, if you take into account fringe benefits.  Yes, the government assumes that doctors will make up the difference by what they charge other patients-- those not covered by Medicare or Medicaid.  But as more people are on public assistance, and as the state and feds scramble to find doctors to treat people covered by those programs, they should at some point recognize the fact.  I come from a family of teachers-- my mother, sister, brother, sister in law, and others-- so I&#039;m not trying to pick a fight-- but rather, only to point out the way things are. I&#039;m using numbers from the State of WI web sites, showing a total average compensation for teachers ranging from $70,000 to over $100,000 dollars per year, depending on the district, and dividing by the number of school days times an 8-hr day.  Both professions involve continuing education and working after hours-- so I consider that part of the equation to be moot.  One profession requires 4 years of college;  the other requires 4 years college, 4 years med school, and 4 years residency.  

I teach medical students in Milwaukee each week, and know that many will face debt well over $100,000 upon graduating.  I see the pressure they face to enter the fields that guarantee a high income-- like orthopedics, radiology, or ENT surgery-- and worry about the future of psychiatry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Chris!  I really enjoy my practice&#8211; more and more as time goes on, as I get to know my patients better and better.  I do worry, of course, about the future of healthcare&#8211; and in particular about government involvement.  Yes, healthcare is &#8216;sick&#8217;, but I&#8217;m afraid of the &#8216;one solution fits all&#8217; approach of Washington.  I hope that I&#8217;m able to &#8216;opt out&#8217; of whatever mess is created&#8211; at least until the kinks are worked out!  </p>
<p>The salary issue is difficult to discuss without getting people angry&#8230; but I realized the other day that if you look at the reimbursement of physicians by the state or Federal government&#8211; Medicaid or Medicare&#8211; that physicians are paid less than teachers on an hourly basis.  In fact, it isn&#8217;t even close, if you take into account fringe benefits.  Yes, the government assumes that doctors will make up the difference by what they charge other patients&#8211; those not covered by Medicare or Medicaid.  But as more people are on public assistance, and as the state and feds scramble to find doctors to treat people covered by those programs, they should at some point recognize the fact.  I come from a family of teachers&#8211; my mother, sister, brother, sister in law, and others&#8211; so I&#8217;m not trying to pick a fight&#8211; but rather, only to point out the way things are. I&#8217;m using numbers from the State of WI web sites, showing a total average compensation for teachers ranging from $70,000 to over $100,000 dollars per year, depending on the district, and dividing by the number of school days times an 8-hr day.  Both professions involve continuing education and working after hours&#8211; so I consider that part of the equation to be moot.  One profession requires 4 years of college;  the other requires 4 years college, 4 years med school, and 4 years residency.  </p>
<p>I teach medical students in Milwaukee each week, and know that many will face debt well over $100,000 upon graduating.  I see the pressure they face to enter the fields that guarantee a high income&#8211; like orthopedics, radiology, or ENT surgery&#8211; and worry about the future of psychiatry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Value of Psychiatry(?) by Chris Bolor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Bolor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, I love this post. I&#039;ve been really drawn to becoming a psychiatrist as I feel I have the compassion, and potential in patience, and intellect to help people through their times. But naturally the question does arise as to how to charge your worth and still make your services enticing enough for the community to see your value and pay it.

But i&#039;ve heard many private practice psychiatrists mostly operate on a &quot;cash only&quot; basis so thats reassuring. Though, I equally love the challenge of business/marketing, and with the technology in years to come, I&#039;m sure i&#039;ll be able to run a practice that fulfills my financial hopes, but also abides to the philosophy of this post and serves a great deal of of the community by making it more cost effective for them.

Anyway, great post, will come back to read more!

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I love this post. I&#8217;ve been really drawn to becoming a psychiatrist as I feel I have the compassion, and potential in patience, and intellect to help people through their times. But naturally the question does arise as to how to charge your worth and still make your services enticing enough for the community to see your value and pay it.</p>
<p>But i&#8217;ve heard many private practice psychiatrists mostly operate on a &#8220;cash only&#8221; basis so thats reassuring. Though, I equally love the challenge of business/marketing, and with the technology in years to come, I&#8217;m sure i&#8217;ll be able to run a practice that fulfills my financial hopes, but also abides to the philosophy of this post and serves a great deal of of the community by making it more cost effective for them.</p>
<p>Anyway, great post, will come back to read more!</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Value of Psychiatry(?) by Akire</title>
		<link>http://patienttimes.fdlpsychiatry.com/2011/12/529/comment-page-1/#comment-1526</link>
		<dc:creator>Akire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before I started on Medicaid, I had no insurance and could not afford it. $199 was just not possible, no matter how much I stretched things (psychiatric care IS important; however, so is rent, food, etc). Medicaid now covers everything; though, do to the issues with it (declining reimbursement) it was difficult to find a good psychiatrist who would take it. I am fortunate that I did. He operates under a similar philosophy as yourself concerning &quot;med checks&quot;, as well.

I believe that your services are worth what you charge and I have all the respect for the years and effort you put into it; the general public is incredibly unfair when they talk about physician salaries. I just can&#039;t pay it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before I started on Medicaid, I had no insurance and could not afford it. $199 was just not possible, no matter how much I stretched things (psychiatric care IS important; however, so is rent, food, etc). Medicaid now covers everything; though, do to the issues with it (declining reimbursement) it was difficult to find a good psychiatrist who would take it. I am fortunate that I did. He operates under a similar philosophy as yourself concerning &#8220;med checks&#8221;, as well.</p>
<p>I believe that your services are worth what you charge and I have all the respect for the years and effort you put into it; the general public is incredibly unfair when they talk about physician salaries. I just can&#8217;t pay it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Value of Psychiatry(?) by Jacek Mokrzec</title>
		<link>http://patienttimes.fdlpsychiatry.com/2011/12/529/comment-page-1/#comment-1521</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacek Mokrzec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dr. Junig,

This is the 1st article/post that I&#039;ve read in about 1.5 years on this subject that fits my feelings and experiences with emotions, counselling and psychiatry to the T. I discovered your website from this post on PsychCentral, and will happily continue following the rest of your post on both sites. I would love to get in touch with you some day to share perspectives. Please keep sharing, if I lived in the States I would love to have you as my Psychiatrist. Good luck on your practice, model and please continue furthering the field in  a positive direction! :)

Cheers,
Jacek Mokrzec</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dr. Junig,</p>
<p>This is the 1st article/post that I&#8217;ve read in about 1.5 years on this subject that fits my feelings and experiences with emotions, counselling and psychiatry to the T. I discovered your website from this post on PsychCentral, and will happily continue following the rest of your post on both sites. I would love to get in touch with you some day to share perspectives. Please keep sharing, if I lived in the States I would love to have you as my Psychiatrist. Good luck on your practice, model and please continue furthering the field in  a positive direction! <img src='http://patienttimes.fdlpsychiatry.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Jacek Mokrzec</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Value of Psychiatry(?) by John Scanlon DO</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Scanlon DO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 04:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a very insightful post. I could not have expressed my feelings better. Please keep caring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a very insightful post. I could not have expressed my feelings better. Please keep caring.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Value of Psychiatry(?) by The Value of Psychiatry? &#124; An Epidemic of Addiction</title>
		<link>http://patienttimes.fdlpsychiatry.com/2011/12/529/comment-page-1/#comment-1519</link>
		<dc:creator>The Value of Psychiatry? &#124; An Epidemic of Addiction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 04:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] think I&#8217;ve made the point I wanted to make, but if you have time, please stop by my own web site and answer a poll that asks about attitudes toward paying for psychiatric care.  Your answer would [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] think I&#8217;ve made the point I wanted to make, but if you have time, please stop by my own web site and answer a poll that asks about attitudes toward paying for psychiatric care.  Your answer would [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Twelve Things I Hate About Benzodiazepines by O. S. Douglas Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>O. S. Douglas Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>. . . So please email me if you have any advice, as that would be SO MUCH appreciated. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . So please email me if you have any advice, as that would be SO MUCH appreciated. . .</p>
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		<title>Comment on Twelve Things I Hate About Benzodiazepines by O. S. Douglas Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>O. S. Douglas Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have taken no less than five non-benzodiazapines (not ambien) including Buspar, Lexapro, Paxil. . . etc. . . The only drug I have taken that has worked on a regular basis, and did not cause a variety of side effects. The Serax is built up in my system to the point where I can take exactly what I&#039;m prescribed, and feel exremely level. The reason I mention all of this is that I have been diagnosed with ADHD since the 4th grade, I have taken Adderall, Concerta and Ritalin.  Now, because I find it difficult, feeling normal and comfortable from my other medications, to pay attention to anything for longer than 5 minutes. Needless to say, this won&#039;t fly in college, so my Suboxone doctor said it would be fine if I went back to my old dose of 20mgs two times a day. This may seem like a lot of drugs, and I know you people don&#039;t know me, but from the bottom of my heart I am honestly doing good in my life, no more constant all night drug deals, no more being a walking felony. . I have goals. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have taken no less than five non-benzodiazapines (not ambien) including Buspar, Lexapro, Paxil. . . etc. . . The only drug I have taken that has worked on a regular basis, and did not cause a variety of side effects. The Serax is built up in my system to the point where I can take exactly what I&#8217;m prescribed, and feel exremely level. The reason I mention all of this is that I have been diagnosed with ADHD since the 4th grade, I have taken Adderall, Concerta and Ritalin.  Now, because I find it difficult, feeling normal and comfortable from my other medications, to pay attention to anything for longer than 5 minutes. Needless to say, this won&#8217;t fly in college, so my Suboxone doctor said it would be fine if I went back to my old dose of 20mgs two times a day. This may seem like a lot of drugs, and I know you people don&#8217;t know me, but from the bottom of my heart I am honestly doing good in my life, no more constant all night drug deals, no more being a walking felony. . I have goals. . .</p>
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